The following is the text of the Terenure Residents' Association submission in response to the revised BusConnects plan as it affects our area. You can read details of the revised plan on the BusConnects website here, or download the leaflet here (although printing this out may be a challenge).
Terenure Residents Association represents about 750 homes close to, and south of, Terenure Cross. Many of our residents are elderly and depend on the bus service for their local transportation requirements. They will be severely inconvenienced by withdrawal of services on some roads, by having to change buses and by greater distance between stops. These are very serious concerns for us, and we ask that they be fully considered in your final plan.
We made a submission on the original network plan in September 2018. A copy of this is attached. While the proposed service through the area is somewhat improved on what was in that plan, we are disappointed that many of the concerns we expressed in 2018 have not been considered. We comment as follows.
Bushy Park Road
This road has had a service for over 80 years and there is no service in the current plan. Over the 80 years since the service was introduced, many new houses were built, particularly in the Meadowbank estate, the High School was opened and the MS Centre was established. The proposal in your 2018 plan was for an hourly one way looped service which was obviously useless, and has now been dropped. Nothing else was put in its place.
We suggest that one of the Rathfarnham A Spine routes could easily be diverted to run to Rathgar via Bushy Park Road instead of Terenure Road East, similar to the 15B at present.
Access to the St. Stephens Green Area
We noted in our 2018 submission our concern about the continued lack of a service to the St. Stephens Green area. This has not been addressed in the current plan.
We suggest that two of the A spine routes, one from each of the Rathfarnham Road and the Templeogue Road routes, could be rerouted to go via Earlsfort Terrace etc., as proposed for the 10, 11and 12 routes.
Terenure Road West
We are disappointed that the new proposal does not provide a direct service from Terenure Road West to the City Centre. The proposed route No. 24 is noted but its route to the City is very long and it will not provide an adequate service for schools etc.
This service terminates at UCD. We suggested in our last submission that it be extended to the DART at Blackrock. This has not been done. An extension, even to Sydney Parade, would do for access to the DART.
We are pleased to note that this route is extended to Nutgrove. Could it be extended further to Dundrum Luas station. The proposed A2 route to Dundrum is very long.
Very many people work in the Financial Services Centre and in offices along the South Quays to Ringsend. The through services to these areas now provided by the 15A and 15B services will be lost. We would like to see something replace it. Would it not be possible to arrange for the proposed 318 service to be extended on a loop to take in these areas and be increased in frequency to cater for their requirements. Some study may be required to establish actual needs.
It is very important that school going children do not have to change buses. Studies should be carried out to determine the present pattern of journeys undertaken by children going to and from school and the final plan should ensure minimum disruption to this pattern. It is often the case that parents select schools, and even the location of their homes, because of an available bus service to schools; This particularly applies in our area to the loss of the 15A route.
Most of the existing services to the City have travelled a long way before reaching Terenure Buses are regularly all full at morning peak times before they reach the Terenure area, The proposed frequencies in some cases are no improvement. For example, the Templeogue Road spine will have10 buses per hour which is very much fewer than the 18 buses at present in the 7.00 to 8.00am. period between the 15, 49 and 65 routes. We would also ask that extra buses be provided which will start at points along the routes to cater for passengers in the areas closer to the city, such as Terenure.
There will be a local community meeting on the latest bus route alterations put forward by the NTA (National Transport Authority) as part of the BusConnects proposals. It will be at
Christchurch Hall, Rathgar (behind the Church)
on Saturday 9th November
at 12 noon sharp
This meeting is NOT an NTA Consultation meeting, but organised by I Love Terenure 2030 and We Love Rathgar. All local residents, traders, schools and clubs in the Terenure/Rathgar area are invited, and the proposed changes will be explained in detail by Brendan Heneghan, and questions/discussion invited.
St Peter Claver Missionary Sisters, long resident on Bushy Park Road,
are holding their Christmas Fair 🎅 on:
Sunday 3rd November
from 10.30am - 2.30pm
in St Joseph's Parish Hall
(at the back of St Joseph's Church, Terenure, at the side of Lidl).
Gifts include Bread, jam, marmalade, Home made cakes,
Garments, bargains galore at the White Elephant Stall,
great raffles, exciting Wheel of Fortune & much more.
Gifts / goods/ bric-a-brac for sale can be delivered to
the Convent, 81 Bushy Park Road Tel 490 9360
(Charity no. CHY 3462)
The NTA (National Transport Authority) have issued progress updates for their designs for core bus corridors 10 and 12. The final designs will be published in early 2020 and further public consultation invited then.
The second draft of the bus network redesign has also been released and submissions are welcomed until the 3rd December.
All these projects will substantially affect Terenure, and TRA recommends residents examine them thoroughly. All of these updated proposals are available on busconnects.ie
Merrick House offers sheltered accommodation in Terenure village for older people, with private accommodation and social support at a price based on residents' means. It is non-denominational and managed by a charity originally founded in 1900. More information about Merrick House, and a link to donate directly, can be found at their website www.merrickhouse.ie
To celebrate the 50th anniversary of Merrick House in Terenure, there will be a "Night of Gospel and Soul" concert featuring the Dublin Gospel Choir at
3. Registration for Core Bus Corridor Community Forums
The National Transport Authority have made various updates to their earlier plans for the new BusConnects proposals. These will be published this month and the NTA will be having further public consultations starting in November but only with pre-registered community groups, special interest groups or business organisations based in the relevant bus corridor. Only 1 representative from each group will be allowed to attend these "community forums".
Therefore it is important that as many groups as possible register with the NTA as soon as possible to ensure they can get representation at the "public" consultation. The Terenure Residents' Association will be represented, and we encourage other groups to do likewise.
The following is the text of the submission made by the Terenure Residents' Association to the National Transport Authority regarding the BusConnects proposals on 25 April 2019:
Submission in relation to
BusConnects Core Bus Corridor Proposals
Corridors 10 and 12
Terenure Residents Association represents residents
living in the area of Terenure, south, east and southwest of Terenure Cross.This represents about 800 households.It includes Templeogue Road, Rathfarnham
Road, Terenure Road East. We are
established for over 30 years.
The proposals for Bus Corridors 10 and 12 seriously
affect our members on Rathfarnham Road, Terenure Road East and Templeogue Road.All of our members would be affected by the
consequent disruption to general motor traffic caused by proposed diversions.This submission will relate to the plan as it
affects the area and households we represent.We are aware that there are some ad hoc groups which will also be making
submissions for areas covered by these bus corridors.
General Reaction to Plan
TRA held a general meeting on Tuesday
16th April.While there is
agreement that there is a pressing need to improve public transport commuting
times the BusConnects proposals, as they
affect the area we represent, are TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE to the members of our Association.The damage that would be caused to the local
environment and ambience of Terenure is completely out of proportion to the
benefits (if any) gained.
Loss of Amenity
There is strong opposition to the concept of four lane highways through well-established
residential areas.Apart from the loss
of amenity this would cause, it would destroy the village life that the
community thrives on. Terenure is a community, not a corridor.There would be serious loss in value of properties
that border on the highways. Loss
of gardens on Rathfarnham Road and Terenure Road East is of significant concern.
Nobody agrees that any of this is worthwhile and the likely cost of reinstating
old cut stone walls and cast iron railings will make the project horrendously expensive for very little
benefitMany of the properties
involved are protected structures.Another
potential cost is compensation paid to residents who will be assessing the loss
in the value of their properties.On Rathfarnham
Road many houses are at a level well above the road and shortening of gardens
will leave unacceptable gradients on driveways.Shortening of driveways will also cause motorists to have to back out of
their driveways on to a very busy road –
dangerous (major health and safety risk to the public)
It should be noted
that much of Terenure is zoned Z2 – Residential Neighbourhood Designated Area
The proposed plan
calls for the removal of a very large number of mature trees.This is unacceptable.Loss of parking spaces at the Terenure end of
Rathfarnham Road will adversely affect the village.
There is a general
feeling that there is very little delay at present to traffic passing through
the area except for a few hours a day at peak times so the concept of having
the full proposal in force for 24 hours a day is ridiculous and unnecessary.
Implementing the plan would result in no general
traffic entering Terenure from Templeogue Road or going towards the city via Rathmines
Road or Kimmage Road Lower.That means
that two out of three direct routes for city bound traffic from a large catchment
area have gone and traffic will be diverted on to unsuitable and sometimes
already overcrowded, residential side roads. Examples are Bushy Park Road, Orwell Park and Castlewood Avenue.The BusConnects Plan assumes that commuters
will transfer to travelling by bus and that there will be much reduced numbers
of cars.Many commuters do not work in
the city or along the bus corridors and will continue to use their cars.There are many other reasons why people have
to use their cars.Even now there is considerable
road congestion in the Dundrum and Churchtown areas in spite of the large
numbers who use the excellent Luas service.If any of the scheme is to be implemented, the impact on the roads in
the diversionary routes will need to be comprehensively assessed.
CBC 10 Templeogue Road.
The proposal for general traffic on Templeogue
Road is one way outbound only from Terenure Place to Fergus Road.Local traffic
only would be allowed down Templeogue Road beyond Springfield Avenue.General inbound traffic would be diverted via
Springfield Avenue and Dodder View Road.
1.Difficulty in preventing non local traffic
beyond Springfield Avenue and consequent rat
running in Rathdown.There are so
many genuine designations of local traffic that it would be impossible to
enforce the restriction, e,g, patrons of Bushy Park and, school runs and traffic to and from Fortfield Road.
will be impossible to implement the proposal because of the enormous problem
that the diverted traffic will cause,
particularly at Rathfarnham Bridge and
on Rathfarnham Road.This would be
totally unacceptable because of the congestion caused and impact on residents.
CBC 12 Rathfarnham Road and Terenure Road East
The proposed land take of gardens on
these roads is so drastic that it should
not be implemented as proposed.A
very large part of the land take is for cycle lanes.Provision of these does not justify the
damage to ambience and environment that would be caused.It would be much more satisfactory to divert
cycles on to quiet parallel roads where feasible, or to reduce speed limits to 30km/hr.
and allow cycles to use the bus lanes
Suggested Immediate Improvements.
earlier, TRA agrees that there is a pressing need to improve public transport
commuting tines in Terenure.Detailed below
are suggested changes that should be implemented, with immediate effect, to
improve these times.
1.Introduce bus priority at traffic lights
with minimum adjustment to present arrangements for bus lanes etc.Ensure that bus priority only operates when
buses are present
2.Reduce speed limits in appropriate areas to
allow cycles to use bus lanes in relative safety.
3.Vastly improve the frequency of buses at
peak times.We get many complaints of all
inbound buses being full when they reach Terenure at peak times in the morning.This is causing potential users to travel by
car.It has been noted that the
frequency of buses to Terenure proposed in the Jarret Walker report is actually
less than that it is at present.The
credibility of the BusConnects plan is thus very much diminished in this area.
4.Reduce dwell time for buses at stops by the
a.All fares to be cashless and generally low
to attract bus users.Additional
subsidies may be required.
b.Introduce a flat fare system to avoid
having to give Leap cards to the driver.
c.Introduce a system to swipe bank debit
d.Compared with other cities the response
time of the swipe pads on Dublin buses seems very slow and sometimes uncertain.
This is a cause of long dwell times.The
system needs to be optimized.
e.Reduce congestion and consequent delay around
the door of the bus while people swipe cards by introducing extra pad locations.
f.Consider swipe pads at bus stops
g.Make it mandatory
to exit the bus through the centre door.At present most people exit through the front door, causing delays,
because they don’t know whether the centre door will be opened.
h.Introduce additional inspection to ensure
cards are swiped as the driver will lose an element of supervision.
TRA strongly recommends
that the above suggestions are trialed.If the results are good, it may not be necessary to do anything else to accommodate
In the longer term
the TRA AGM agreed that the only satisfactory way to achieve reasonable and predictable
commuting times is to work towards an
underground Metro solution.With the
cancellation of the Charlemont Bridge to Sandyford proposal to convert the Luas
to Metro an opportunity exists to bring such a system to the Terenure area.Such a solution would be much more
satisfactory than the BusConnects plan and would receive full support from TRA